9 Signs You Need An Engine Rebuild  (2024)

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There are 9 tell tale signs and simple tests you can do at home that indicate you need an engine rebuild or at least engine reconditioning.

We recently started offering an engine rebuild and performance servicing through the PBM garage to tackle the tough projects your average local mechanic shys away from.

This article will give instructions that range from simple engine runs, test rides and a few small tests achievable by most home garage tinkerers. Once that’s done and you have an idea of what’s going on inside the powerplant of your bike, we’ll recommend to you the best course of action on getting it repaired and your bike back on the road.

Everyone loves the allure of a classic motorcycle. The visceral experience of riding a vintage motorcycle is something that’s missing from a lot of modern bikes. This, I think, is the driver behind the huge revival of the vintage machine.

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One thing that we hear time and time again from our clients is that they want reliability from their engine. Often older bikes are thought to be void of this elusive reliability. That can be true in some cases, but that’s not to say you can’t make your classic bike reliable. It just takes a little more care on these older machines.

We’ve written a number of blogs on finding and fixing the electrical gremlins that can haunt your classic motorcycle. Now let’s take a look at the tell tale signs that your bike may need some deeper attention than just an oil change and a clean air filter.

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How ManyKilometres/Miles Before My Motorcycle Engine Needs To Be Rebuilt?

This is a loaded question that’s very dependent on your engine configuration, performance and manufacturer. In general this is our guide with our client builds as to whether they should think about rebuilding their engine.

Keep in mind our custom motorcycle build clients come to us and will usually do a lot of work on their bike of choice, wanting nothing but the best for their machine and expecting it to run like new for years to come when we’re finished with it. If I see the below numbers on their speedo we will take a good look at their engine and test to see if it needs reconditioning of the top end or a complete engine rebuild.

Test is the operative word, performing the right engine tests will give you an exact answer on what needs doing.

Average Range To See If Engines Need Reconditioning

Engine typeModelRange
Single Cylinder EnginesYamaha SR500, GN250, DR-z400, DR650, XT500 etc.40,000 – 60,000 km

25,000 – 37,000 miles

Parallel Twin Cylinder Engines 250cc – 650ccXS650, CB250T, CB400T, XS400 etc.30,000 – 60,000 km

18,500 – 37,000 miles

Parallel Twin Cylinder Engines 650cc + AboveW800, Triumph Air cooled, Triumph Liquid cooled etc.50,000 – 70,000 km

31,000 – 43,500 miles

L-Twin Cylinder EnginesDucati engines40,000 – 50,000 km

25,000 – 31,000 miles

V-Twin Small Capacity (Japanese) EnginesVirago250, XV750, XVS650 and common metric bobber models40,000 – 60,000 km

25,000 – 37,000 miles

V-Twin EnginesHarley Davidson Models60,000 – 80,000 km

37,000 – 49,500 miles

Triple or Four Cylinder Engines 250cc – 750ccHonda CB350f, CB400f,CB750, Suzuki GS550, GS750, Kawasaki GPZ550 GPz75050,000 – 70,000 km

31,000 – 43,500 miles

Four Cylinder Engines 750cc + AboveSuzuki GSX1400, GS1000, Honda CB100060,000 – 80,000 km

37,000 – 49,500 miles

These numbers are general guides, and depend on how the bike has been maintained and its previous history of use. However those are the numbers I use to see whether we need to factor in major engine work to our build projects. It should help you before moving on with your next checks.

Before troubleshooting your engine you need to make sure everything around the engine is operating properly. Starter motor, ignition system (spark plugs, coils, cdi, ignition trigger), carburettors/Injectors and fuel system. Making sure the engine has a clean oil filter and correct oil is a great start.

Ensuring you haven’t got a problem here can save you time and money chasing an internal engine issue that may not exist!

With that done It will be worthwhile checking the valve clearances and cam chain tension as these can be a source of noise if they aren’t properly adjusted.

With the external factors checked, valve timing and clearances done let’s run through the signs your engine needs a rebuild. These signs can be

  • blowing smoke
  • fouling plugs
  • loss of power
  • knocking or grinding noises from the top or bottom end
  • misfire on a cylinder
  • breathing heavy through the crankcase breather.

If your motorcycle is doing any of these things it’s a good sign it’s going to need a tear down.

If you couldn’t be arsed going through these steps and just want your engine rebuilt better than it was new, hit themotorcycle mechanicpageand get in touch, PBM will happily take care of this diagnosis and rebuild for you.

Let’s break down these signs and give a little insight into what they mean for your engine.

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Motorcycle Engine is Blowing Smoke

Valve Not Seating Or Bad Seals

Signs you have a valve issue, if your engine blows blue smoke on start up when cold is an indication you have leaking valve stems seals. This can happen due to seals wearing out and getting old and brittle. Another reason can be worn valve guides which cause excessive movement of the valve steam resulting in the seal unable to seal around the stem. Another problem valves have is not seating in the valve seat. This will cause low compression in your engine. Seating issues can be caused by valves wearing into the seat overtime, incorrect valve adjustment or incorrect valve time causing valves to hit pistons.

Piston And Ring Issues

If your engine blows blue smoke under load that is an indication of worn out piston rings. If your engine is down on power and even misfiring on a cylinder, this is an indication of rings not sealing. Pistons and rings wear over time and eventually your cylinder will need to be machined to fit an oversized piston and rings.The best way to diagnose a piston or ring issue is a wet and dry compression test, this is explained below.

The best way to diagnose the problems of piston and ring issues is a compression test or leak down test. This test will determine whether your rings need replacing or the piston is damaged, Valves are worn and not seating properly. You can buy a compression tester from most auto stores. To use a compression tester you need to remove your spark plug and install the correct fitting of your comp tester into where your spark plug screws. Hold your throttle wide open and crank your bike over until the gauge on the tester will not increase any more. To do a wet compression test squirt a couple pumps of oil into your cylinder through the spark plug hole and repeat the test and compare the results against the dry test. If the wet test gives higher results by more than 20% then this will indicate ring issues. If you get the same or similar results it will mean either valve or head gasket is the issue.

This will arm you with the information you need to approach the right mechanic and have your motorcycle engine rebuilt.

Spark plugs can give a good indication of oil use too. If your spark plug is carboned up badly this is a sign of excessive oil getting into your cylinder from the problems we just described.

Noisy Top End On Your Motorcycle

Noises from the top end of your motorcycle engine can give you a hint at a few problems indicating it’s time for an engine rebuild. Worn or wrongly adjusted valves, worn out cam-lobes or cam shaft bearings. These can usually be spotted with visual inspection by removing the cam chain, and camshaft retainers to take a look. If there is wear showing this can be a sign of low oil making it to the top end and can point to a deeper issue, especially if it’s a relatively low Km/mileage engine. Just to note, if you do this inspection you will need to re-time the engine properly before attempting to start again.

Noisey Bottom End Of Your Motorcycle Engine

Noises from the bottom end of your motorcycle engine are rarely a good thing. If it’s not an issue with your stator or clutch these often cannot be solved with a simple inspection and replacement by taking one of the covers off.

Clutch Issues

Your clutch can be the source of a lot of noise, be sure to inspect the plate thickness, and tension of all the fixing bolts that hold your clutch basket in place and help it operate properly. Check the adjustment and alignment according to yourworkshop manual.

Same goes with your stator and rotor. Make sure everything here looks off and is running without fouling on anything as it rotates.

Gearbox Issues

Gearboxes show symptoms like jumping out of gear, false neutrals or hard shifting. Motorcycle gearboxes have what we call a dog box style gearbox.This allows the gearbox to shift faster and harder than a conventional car gearbox. A typical issue with dog boxes is over time the dog teeth which mesh together to engage the gear wear down and cause the selected gear to jump out. Unfortunately most motorcycle gearboxes are inside the engine and to fix we need to remove and split the engine cases.

Crankshafts Issues

A sign your crankshaft is worn is low oil pressure. The reason for this is that crankshaft bearings use a white metal bearing shell around the journal of the crankshaft. These bearings fit around the crankshaft journal with clearance of 0.0127 to 0.0254 of millimeter. Oil pressure runs inside this clearance and stops the journal from touching the bearing. If this clearance gets larger from a drop in oil pressure caused by the bearing to touch the journal and rub and wear. It causes the oil system in the engine to drop pressure from lack of resistance due too much bearing clearance.

This is a major issue for an engine and if not fixed can cause extreme damage to your engine like breaking a conrod or snapping a crankshaft. Signs of a conrod bearing with excessive clearance is a knocking noise usually louder at idle. Checking the main bearing clearance is harder and will require your crankshaft to be removed and measured for wear. To fix crankshaft issues requires journals to be ground down and oversized bearings to be installed. Most single cylinder engines will use roller bearings on the crankshaft. These require less oil pressure than a slipper bearing type engine as the bearings use needle rollers or balls as opposed to oil pressure. These roller and ball bearings do wear over time and will cause similar issues to slipper bearings like conrod bearing knock.

Head Gasket Issue

Head gasket issues can cause low compression and a misfire if the gasket has failed. On water cooled bikes you will notice loss of coolant and overheating. Air cooled engines will get compression issues and if riding at night give a flash which is exploding air and fuel escaping out of the head gasket to atmosphere.

Carburettor Issue

If a carby isn’t functioning right it can destroy your engine. Lack of fuel to an engine can overheat the cylinder and cause pinging/pre-detonation. This is when fuel is ignited in the cylinder before the spark plug does and causes two flame fronts. These two flame fronts fight each other and cause a super heated explosion which can damage pistons to the point of burning a hole through them. It’s always important to run the correct octane fuel for your bike and make sure you have the correct ignition timing set.

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An engine rebuild is part of owning classic motorcycle. If you follow this article section by section you should be able to determine what the source of the problem is with your motorcycle engine. Having all the information when you go into your motorcycle engine mechanic will help you not only communicate where the problem lies, saving you time and money, but also understand how to keep your classic motorcycle engine in top shape.

If you’re experiencing any of these issues then get in touch with and we can give your motorcycle engine rebuild the attention it needs.

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2000 Harley Davidson ultra classic with 102675 miles.oil blows out through air filter after running about 75mph.canged rocker filters and air filter..put true dual exhaust on
any idea why it still does that?
thinking of going big cylinder kit

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9 Signs You Need An Engine Rebuild  (2024)

FAQs

How do I know if my engine needs rebuilt? ›

Here are some signs that indicate that the engine is failing, and that you should contact an experienced mechanic for an engine rebuilding.
  1. Smoke Coming from the Engine. ...
  2. Ticking Sound Inside the Motor. ...
  3. Power Loss. ...
  4. Overheating Problem.

Does a rebuilt engine have 0 miles? ›

While looks can be deceiving, a remanufactured engine technically does not have zero miles after it is remanufactured. Parts that have been inspected and passed the OEM specifications will still have wear and tear from previous miles.

How many miles will a rebuilt engine last? ›

I have seen rebuilt engines last as little as 5000 miles when the rebuild was done down to a budget and, for example, it was not re-bored and fitted with new pistons, whilst other rebuilds done to a really good standard with all new parts and careful assembly can easily last over 100,000 miles.

Will a rebuilt engine run better? ›

Better Fuel Economy and Performance – with new, freshly replaced parts, a rebuilt engine is bound to have far better fuel economy and performance than before.

How much should an engine rebuild cost? ›

The cost to rebuild the engine will vary depending on the complexity of your vehicle's engine and what's wrong with the car. However, an engine rebuild cost can be approximately half of what you'll pay for a replacement. A typical engine rebuild may cost around $2,500 to $4,000, including parts and labor.

When can an engine not be rebuilt? ›

Major parts are replaced only as needed, such as camshafts, crankshafts and pistons. There are generally only two scenarios in which an engine cannot be rebuilt. First, the engine block has been damaged internally due to broken connecting rod or crankshaft. Second, the exterior of the engine block has been cracked.

How fast should you drive on a rebuilt engine? ›

If you want to be extra gentle, after 200 miles do five or six medium-throttle accelerations, a couple hard throttle accelerations and coast back to about 20 mph. From 500 to 1,000 miles, drive normally but keep rpm below 5,000. Always avoid long periods of idling during this time, says Summit.

Is a rebuilt engine basically new? ›

An engine rebuild is known as a process where the finished product is considered brand new from the inside out. All the parts of the engine that display signs of wear are replaced with brand new replacements. The parts that could be replaced include the valves, pistons, bearings, and seals.

How long do I keep an engine running after a rebuild? ›

After an initial start, the engine should be run for 20 minutes at 2000 RPM to ensure initial break-in of the camshaft. Once past that hurdle, the car (assuming the engine is a car engine) should be driven at moderate and varying speeds for a couple of hours.

What is the disadvantage of engine rebuild? ›

When rebuilding an engine, you may not get the same performance as a new one. This is because rebuilt engines add more air and fuel, which can reduce performance. Additionally, air resistance can rob power from an engine.

What is the easiest engine to rebuild? ›

Subaru engines tend to be one of the easiest engines to rebuild and have a low rate of failure. All Drive Subarus usually have one of each engine in stock at any time ready for despatch, so it is easy to find the right part for your car.

How many miles does it take to break in a rebuilt engine? ›

However, the typical break-in period is within the first 500-1000 miles. If you give in to the common urge and start pushing your engine too hard early on, you risk accelerating this process, causing minute imperfections in the size and shape of engine components.

How often does an engine need to be rebuilt? ›

However, on average, a well-maintained engine can last anywhere between 150,000 to 300,000 miles. Regular oil changes, timely replacements of filters, and adherence to the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule play pivotal roles in extending the engine's longevity.

How do I know if engine needs to be replaced? ›

Some common warning signs that indicate a car needs a new engine include the following.
  1. The 'Check Engine' Light Is On. ...
  2. Excessive Oil Consumption. ...
  3. High Exhaust Emissions Levels. ...
  4. Strange Sounds Coming From the Engine. ...
  5. Your Car Has Low Oil Pressure. ...
  6. Your Engine Is Overheating. ...
  7. Loss of Engine Power. ...
  8. Oil or Fluid Under the Car.

Is it worth putting a rebuilt engine in a car? ›

Rebuilt engines typically cost less but the job might not use high-quality replacement parts. A remanufactured engine can be as good as a new engine, last for many years and miles, and have attractive warranty coverage.

What are the signs of your engine going out? ›

7 Signs of a Failing Engine
  • Check Engine Light. This light is the most obvious clue. ...
  • Constant Overheating. If the engine is overheating often then it is about time that you get it checked. ...
  • Decreasing Fuel Economy. ...
  • Loss of Power. ...
  • Engine Stalling. ...
  • Rough Idle. ...
  • Excessive Noises and Vibrations. ...
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